"I
do believe almost everyone has a poem in them. And a song. And a strange
little painting. It's my goal, in teaching, to assist students in the unearthing
of their own treasures..."
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Kathleen
Lynch
Interview
by Joan Houlihan
Kathleen
Lynch has published poetry, fiction, essays, and B&W photographs. Her
"How to Build an Owl" won the Select Poet Series Award from Small Poetry
Press. Her poems have been published in many journals, including Poetry
East, Poetry Flash, Poetry Northwest, Sycamore Review, Spoon River Poetry
Review, The Midwest Quarterly, Quarterly West, and Chariton Review. She
has work forthcoming in Poetry, Nimrod, The English Journal, The Laurel
Review, Slipstream, and Disquieting Muses. She lives in Loomis, California,
where she studies clay sculpture, works as a free lance writer and conducts
writing workshops.
Perihelion
Verbatim: Do you think there is an identifiable "west coast" style
in poetry? Can you use a few words to describe it?
Since
just about every population on earth is represented on the west coast,
I think the poetry from this region is eclectic, wide-ranging and open
to
all comers. Like any other region’s, some of it is horrid, lots fair-to-decent,
& some: sparklers.
When
did you start writing poetry? Why?
While
in high school, I began writing poems secretly. Secretly, because in the
late ‘50s in Sacramento, poetry was not a path to popularity–-something
a
"dip" or "dud" would do. And I did. But don’t tell anyone.
"Why?"
– because I loved the sounds of poems, the music of them, the strangeness
and difficulty.
Who
would you say are your poetic influences?
The
most important poetic influence is probably not a who, but a what. A condition.
We had parents who read aloud to us. The only poetry book we
had
in our home was The Best Loved Poems of the American People. Mom read from
it regularly. When old enough, I read it repeatedly, as avidly as I read
comic books. That, and the dictionary. I loved the tissue--thin pages,
the tiny illustrations, the inserts of flags, ships, knots, etc.
Also,
we had no television in our home until I was well into my teens, so I had
the opportunity to experience some healthy boredom, which helped
foster
a life of the mind - the mind making things up.
Regarding
teachers: in my mid twenties, I had the great fortune of studying for three
semesters with Dennis Schmitz at California State University
in
Sacramento. He is a much honored, widely published poet, and a truly great
teacher. That was the bedrock scholastic experience for me. I am not an
academic poet, and did not attend any official Poetry Workshops. Every
now and then I took myself to a class, or to a summer workshop. In that
way, I studied briefly with Robert Hass, Adrienne Rich, Mary Oliver, Stephen
Dunn, Linda Gregg, Phil Dacey. But for the most part, I have studied and
written
alone for over 30 years.
I
am currently a member of an outstanding writing group. We meet every other
week in Berkeley. The level of writing and criticism is very high. It’s
a
valued resource for me.
In
looking for a writing group, I suggest poets try to find one in which there
are writers whose level of accomplishment is equal to or greater than their
own. It’s not very helpful to one’s development to be the Star.
You
run a writing workshop--would you say a workshop, or some kind of study
of writing, is essential to fostering good writing?
Definitely
study. Read widely and deeply. And not just contemporary poets. Not just
poets. Study the sciences, music, art. Learn to cook. Travel.
It’s
all connected. It all broadens the work.
I
don’t think a writing workshop is the only way to learn to write. But for
some writers, it can temporarily provide a focused environment and the
fellowship
of other writers. But too much "workshopping" can be addictive and demoralizing,
just as too much shopping can sap the soul and kill time.
Do
you think there is such a thing as a "workshop poem"?
Oh,
yes. I think there’s a proliferation of them now, even in the best magazines.
Some workshop leaders try to help students find their own voices, explore
language intuitively, intelligently. Others, unfortunately, teach Tricks
of the Trade workshops. Perhaps even unwittingly, they urge students
to
develop a certain attitude in the work, to use contrivances that make the
poem "look like a poem."
Workshops
often push students into the publishing process too soon. When the focus
of the writer turns prematurely to the business of getting
published,
they face the danger of turning poems into commodities. Something for the
marketplace. If the writer is skilled, he or she may be able to "crank
out"
clever and engaging poems, win praise, publication, etc. But they
may lose the humility which is essential to the process of true learning.
Fundamentally,
I believe writing poetry is a way of learning how to think. To think deeply
and differently. To discover what is surprising in one’s
own
mind, and in the secret world of things. Given that, I hope always to be
a student of poetry, a learner.
Do
you think everyone has talent in writing and it's just a matter of the
right kind of influences/nurturing to develop their talent?
I
don’t think everyone has talent with a capital T, but I do believe almost
everyone has a poem in them. And a song. And a strange little painting.
It’s
my goal, in teaching, to assist students in the unearthing of their own
treasures. To help bring them into the world. Even if they don’t go on
to
"become poets," they will have seen poetry in a different light. Perhaps
they will become actual readers of poetry.
You
work with other art forms--sculpture, photography. Does your creative process
tend to dictate the medium or do you decide ahead of time which form you
want to work in?
Writing
is my primary medium, but it is fed by, and feeds, the other work. If I
feel stalled verbally, I turn to the mute work. It’s another way to
study.
It opens all the pores. I think of the imagination as a big old house.
If I can’t get in through the front (stuck) door, I’ll try a window, I’ll
squeeze
down the chimney. I will get in.
Do
the different mediums impact each other? In what ways?
Yes,
I do think there is a "dialogue" between the works. In sculpture, as in
a poem, the negative space, the silence, what you don’t put there,
matters
as much as what you do. It’s an antidote to overspeaking. With the photographs,
I feel closer to story, to narrative. While working on a photo series,
I often find a new direction I need to take in the writing. A shift reveals
itself to me. It does seem that when I’m working on sculpture, my poems
are
more spare, & when doing a photo series, the poems more narrative.
Do
you think poets need to learn form and technique before they can be considered
"real "poets?
I
don’t know what a "real" poet is. I suspect it doesn’t necessarily mean
famous, nor widely published. I do think that a real working poet
inevitably
will study form, in order to know the underpinnings of free verse. Some
discover they are drawn to working in form, or learn a way to impose a
self-invented form of their own, to intensify and challenge the work.
Do
you think there is a central emotion/idea that you return to in your poems
and express in different ways? In other words, what is your poetic "obsession"?
Love
and Terror. Survival. Joy – because of and in spite of everything.
What,
if anything, does living in California have to do with your poetry?
Nada.
I was born in upstate New York on a Navy base during the war (1943). We
moved to Sacramento when I was a few months old. At age 30 I left California,
lived 6 years in eastern
Washington,
then Connecticut, then San Jose, CA, then Poway, CA (about 1/2 hour from
San Diego), then Pleasanton, CA (bay area), then Fremont, CA,
and
finally, moved to Loomis, CA. Loomis is about 1/2 hour from Sacramento,
so I am back "home," in a sense, after a journey of 25 years away.
I
do think "place" has an impact on any writer– any person, for that matter.
And I believe that we each have a "psycic landscape," one that somehow
speaks
to us unconsciously. I know forest people, ocean people, etc. I used to
believe I was a "meadow" person, until, in my forties, I moved south and
discovered the desert. I felt such a deep sense of recognition in that
"alien" place. A correspondence. The vastness of land and sky. All that
air. Hard-tested survivors. Starkness rendering each shadow in high relief:
Lovely.
Terrifying. Mine.
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